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Teaching a Step Through Move - 2008/03/25 18:18
I am a little confused on teaching a step through move...I'm currently teaching when driving from the left wing to the paint(penetration box)to stop with a stride stop(left-right)..then we have either a shot, shot fake-one step through for a left hand layup..
My question is can this move be made off of a jump stop? My answer is no, but am a little confused...If I use a power jump stop(right foot step-then 1 dribble, leave off my left foot and land on 2 feet)-I can no longer step through with a pivot foot? This is why I believe and teach a stride stop in the paint for finishing? Can anyone add some input? I want to be sure my methodology is correct and make sure I'm teaching this right? Thanks in advance.
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Re:Teaching a Step Through Move - 2008/03/25 18:55
Rick Allison is the rules expert. However, if you make a jump stop where you pick up the dribble, step, jump and land on two feet, you do not have a pivot foot. If however you stop and pick up the dribble simultaneously, you can use either foot as a pivot foot.
I think kids need to understand the difference and be able to use both stops around the basket. There are times when using a big jump stop is important and others when using a 1-2 stop to set-up a step-through move is important. The more versatility a player has, the better he will be, provided he can react to situations rather than overthinking each move.
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Re:Teaching a Step Through Move - 2008/03/29 02:33
I think of the rule like this: It depends when you pick up the ball. If you pick up the ball with a foot on the ground then you can jump stop but no pivots. If you jump then pick up the ball then you can jump stop and pivot, or do a one two jump stop (with a pivot, as long as the first foot that lands is your pivot). Which is pretty much what Brian said. However, refs have their own ideas and each ref calls travels differently. When I teach my guys, I always teach flexibility in the footwork, in other words, be able to adjust to the refs. The smoother the move looks the better, also, if you can teach the kids to keep their hand on top of the ball as long as possible as they jump, it looks better. Keeping the hand on top of the ball as long as possible until you come to your stop (jump or one two) has limited the number of traveling calls against us. I wouldn't be arrogant enough to call myself an expert on this, but I have had a ton of experience with this idea because of the system I teach. We hunt the paint constantly with the drive and I teach dynamic jump-stops of all kinds to get in there. I have had so many conversations with refs about this I have lost count. I think I am making progress, in the way I teach it, but in the end you have to abide by the refs idea (or guess sometimes) of what a travel is. I love the step through move, but man it tends to get called a travel a lot.
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Re:Teaching a Step Through Move - 2008/03/29 05:23
As you say, everything relies on the official's interpretation, and, for that matter, I have had several officials, including college officials, explain the rule incorrectly, which is always great to play a game and have no idea what rules the officials plan to play with on any given day...I just tell my players that it's only a foul if the official calls it and it's only a travel if the official calls it and they have to adjust after the first one because you never know.
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Re:Teaching a Step Through Move - 2008/03/29 15:29
In the 90s, Ryan Minor was an All-American basketball player for Oklahoma (trivia: he was the baseball player who replaced Cal Ripken in the lineup when Ripken's streak ended). He was a 6'7" forward with an assortment of great moves. In the NCAA tourney, one official decided to call traveling on every one of the moves Minor had been doing his whole life and OU lost its game as a 3 seed or 5 seed or something. It was so odd to watch.
So, you never know what will be a travel. When my son and I goof around, we do the "LeBron move", where you put the ball on your hip at the 3 pt line, take 2 full steps and then a jump-stop. Watch LeBron highlights, he does that all the time and doesn't get called for traveling.
I've heard NBA officials explain it's not about steps, it's about rhythm or something. Never made any sense to me.
On the other hand, in youth ball, you'll often see travels called when a kid, especially a big kid, keeps his pivot foot but looks awkward or off-balance. It seems it's all about whether you look like you're doing it on purpose.
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Re:Teaching a Step Through Move - 2008/03/29 16:42
I agree. Last year I had two tall guys. One was big and a little uncoordinated, the other was long and athletic. I taught them the same footwork. Guess which one always got called for travels. In regard to traveling having to do with rhythm, I have a question that my wife and I argue about all the time. When do you start counting steps for traveling, when you pick up the ball, or after the last dribble?
Post edited by: newrm, at: 2008/03/29 16:44
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